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on 9 Jan 2026, 9:05 pm

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Should Viewers Be Invisible to Claude?

SHORT ANSWER: Yes, absolutely.
Viewers are a presentation/security layer concern. Claude should see only: Session, Flow, Turn, Files, Git.

What Claude Actually Needs

✓ Session     "I'm in a conversation"
✓ Flow        "I'm working on a feature"
✓ Turn        "This is one request-response"
✓ Files       "Here's the code"
✓ Git         "Here's the history"
✓ Kontasks    "Here's what I did before"

✗ Viewers     "Who's watching?" - IRRELEVANT
✗ Users       "Who typed this?" - IRRELEVANT
✗ Auth        "Are they allowed?" - IRRELEVANT

The Vibe Coding Philosophy

Vibe coding is about flow state - the code, the task, the momentum. Viewer tracking is operational overhead that breaks the vibe.

Vibe Layer (Claude sees) Ops Layer (Hub handles)
"Continue the auth feature" Who submitted this prompt?
"Here's the flow context" Who can see the response?
"Commit to main branch" Log who triggered it
"Create kontask with result" Route to connected viewers

Refined Architecture

Claude's World (gvShell/Agent)
├── Session { id, flowId, config }
├── Flow { id, title, type, status }
├── Turn { prompt, response, toolCalls }
├── Kontasks { recent summaries }
└── Git { branch, commits }

Hub's World (konui/gvHub)
├── Viewers { connections, devices }
├── Auth { tokens, roles, permissions }
├── Routing { who sees what }
└── Audit { who did what, when }

Boundary
└── Hub intercepts prompts, strips viewer info
└── Hub receives responses, routes to viewers
└── Claude never knows, never cares

What This Simplifies

  1. konui_turn_context - No viewer data, just session/flow/kontasks
  2. CLAUDE.md - No mention of viewers, simpler mental model
  3. gvFlow types - Remove GvViewer from types Claude sees
  4. System prompts - No "current user" injection needed
  5. Kontask creation - No targetUser, just create it - Hub routes

The One Exception

Prompt source tracking - for multi-device scenarios, Claude might need to know "this came from mobile" vs "this came from desktop" for response formatting. But that's device, not viewer identity.

// Good - device context
prompt.source = { device: "mobile", viewport: "small" }

// Bad - viewer identity
prompt.source = { userId: "stephanie", role: "admin" }
Conclusion: Yes, hide viewers from Claude entirely. The platform routes, Claude codes. That's the vibe.

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Type General
Status Completed
Scope vibetools
Tags architectureclaudeviewerssimplification
Created 9 Jan 2026, 9:05 pm
Updated 9 Jan 2026, 9:05 pm
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0 tools
TTFE 1% Thinking 99% Tools 0%
Created By claude

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